Comments on: Sunday Smackdown: Christians vs the Waitstaff http://www.christiansontheclock.org/archives/sunday-smackdown-christians-vs-the-waitstaff What is your hurt, habit, or hangup? Are you ready for complete freedom from your addictions? Try this plan and you'll find why God put you here on earth. Sat, 03 Dec 2011 21:08:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Christians on the Clock http://www.christiansontheclock.org/archives/sunday-smackdown-christians-vs-the-waitstaff/comment-page-1#comment-3 Christians on the Clock Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:23:58 +0000 http://christiansontheclock.org/?p=12#comment-3 The article does not support over-tipping for poor service. It promotes showing Christ's love to those who may be providing poor service. The level of tip given to them was indirectly addressed in the bold font in the latter paragraph where it said <strong>"good service deserves a 15% tip."</strong> The article is also not written to "good customers", although I am sure as many people think they are "good customers" as they are "good people". We know from the Bible that none of us are good. I would also recommend that we avoid using the phrase "instructional". This sounds mighty self-righteous, and assumes that the person doing the instructing knows what they are talking about. This also assumes the recipient of the instruction will receive it. Proverbs 9:7-9 suggests that we not rebuke the mockers (or bad servers) unless we are sure they are a wise man or woman. <blockquote>Whoever corrects a mocker invites insult; whoever rebukes a wicked man incurs abuse Do not rebuke a mocker or he will hate you; rebuke a wise man and he will love you. Instruct a wise man and he will be wiser still</blockquote> Strangely enough on the major issues it looks like we agree - from different sides of the "preachy" coin. The article does not support over-tipping for poor service. It promotes showing Christ’s love to those who may be providing poor service. The level of tip given to them was indirectly addressed in the bold font in the latter paragraph where it said “good service deserves a 15% tip.”

The article is also not written to “good customers”, although I am sure as many people think they are “good customers” as they are “good people”. We know from the Bible that none of us are good.

I would also recommend that we avoid using the phrase “instructional”. This sounds mighty self-righteous, and assumes that the person doing the instructing knows what they are talking about. This also assumes the recipient of the instruction will receive it. Proverbs 9:7-9 suggests that we not rebuke the mockers (or bad servers) unless we are sure they are a wise man or woman.

Whoever corrects a mocker invites insult;
whoever rebukes a wicked man incurs abuse
Do not rebuke a mocker or he will hate you;
rebuke a wise man and he will love you.
Instruct a wise man and he will be wiser still

Strangely enough on the major issues it looks like we agree – from different sides of the “preachy” coin.

]]> By: pjlr http://www.christiansontheclock.org/archives/sunday-smackdown-christians-vs-the-waitstaff/comment-page-1#comment-2 pjlr Sat, 10 Dec 2005 16:40:33 +0000 http://christiansontheclock.org/?p=12#comment-2 While there is much truth in what you have to say, I can't agree with all of it. Waitstaff are paid to provide a service. It doesn't make sense to reward bad service. While we don't have to be punitive in our tip, we can be instructional. If we have been good customers and have received bad service, a minimum tip makes a statement. If the service was extremely poor a cordial inquiry with the waitstaff may be appropriate. I have personally asked a waitress, with genuine concern, if they are having a bad day. If they answer my inquiry rudely, then a minimum tip is in order. If I discern that they are just having a bad day, then I over tip. I would even go so far as to say that if a waiter has been really bad, the owner or supervisor would appreciate it being called to his attention. I wouldn't pay 10% above the sale price for an automobile to be a witness to a salesman. I wouldn't go into the gas station and give the attendant an extra $5 for my gas to be a witness. I won't give 20 percent to a bad serving waiter. It only reinforces in my mind that their behavior is acceptable, or that they think they are entitled to it just for being there. I have given over the top tips to deserving and underserving waiters, but only after discerning as best I can the intent of my tip. While there is much truth in what you have to say, I can’t agree with all of it.

Waitstaff are paid to provide a service. It doesn’t make sense to reward bad service. While we don’t have to be punitive in our tip, we can be instructional. If we have been good customers and have received bad service, a minimum tip makes a statement. If the service was extremely poor a cordial inquiry with the waitstaff may be appropriate. I have personally asked a waitress, with genuine concern, if they are having a bad day. If they answer my inquiry rudely, then a minimum tip is in order. If I discern that they are just having a bad day, then I over tip.

I would even go so far as to say that if a waiter has been really bad, the owner or supervisor would appreciate it being called to his attention.

I wouldn’t pay 10% above the sale price for an automobile to be a witness to a salesman. I wouldn’t go into the gas station and give the attendant an extra $5 for my gas to be a witness. I won’t give 20 percent to a bad serving waiter. It only reinforces in my mind that their behavior is acceptable, or that they think they are entitled to it just for being there.

I have given over the top tips to deserving and underserving waiters, but only after discerning as best I can the intent of my tip.

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